Showing posts with label Raptor engine. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Raptor engine. Show all posts

Tuesday, January 28, 2025

The SpaceX Raptor engine is still of unproven reliability.

 Copyright 2025 Robert Clark

 The explosion of the upper stage Starship during the IFT-7 test flight came as a surprise since SpaceX has promoted the idea the Starship is close to being operational to carry passengers.

 I had previously written in 2023 the Raptor engine was insufficiently reliable at least in regards to an engine intended for manned rockets:

SpaceX should withdraw its application for the Starship as an Artemis lunar lander, Page 2: The Raptor is an unreliable engine.

https://exoscientist.blogspot.com/2023/12/spacex-should-withdraw-its-application.html


 That conclusion has to be said still holds. Multiple lines of evidence lead to the conclusion SpaceX has not been completely forthright in regards to the Raptor reliability. 


 SpaceX has been disingenuous in regards to the Raptor reliability from the beginning of the Starship testing. In describing static fires of the Raptor, SpaceX referred to short 5 to 7 second burns as “full duration”. But in the industry the term “full duration” is understood to be short for “full mission duration.” It refers to static fires that last for the full length and full power level of an actual mission. They are meant to give confidence to the rocket company, and importantly also to potential customers, the engine can indeed fulfill the mission requirements needed during flight.


 Defenders of this use of the terminology have argued SpaceX is using it to mean “full planned duration”. But in the industry, if a rocket engine manufacturer wants to do a test for a shorter length they just call them tests of that shorter length. There is no logical reason for using a term well accepted in the industry with the meaning changed. The only reason that comes to mind is that SpaceX wanted to provide an unwarranted assessment to the Raptor reliability.


  The unreliability of the Raptor engine was seen in prior tests of the Starship landing procedures:



  As this video shows, the leaks and fires are seen quite commonly during restarts, though they do occur during the initial burns also. This points out another area where SpaceX has not been fully forthright about the Raptor reliability. For the SpaceX plan using multiple refuelings for their Moon and Mars flights it is absolutely essential the Raptor be reliable for 3-burns during a single flight, the initial burn, the boostback or reentry burn, and finally the landing burns.


 But astonishingly SpaceX has not done a single static test of the Raptor able to do all 3 burns for the full mission lengths, full mission wait times between burns, and full mission power levels.


 SpaceX has done a static test showing a quite large number of restarts in succession:


Adam Cuker  @AdamCuker

Guess that was only an appetizer. We end up having another test with 34 Raptor firings back-to back

https://x.com/AdamCuker/status/1849176567785967989


 This was offered as evidence of the Raptor able to do the needed burns for reusability. But actually it does the reverse. The Raptor will never have to do this number of burns in quick succession for a real flight. In contrast, the Raptor will have to do the cited 3-burns for both stages for every single flight. Why test an engine usage that will never happen in place of one that will always happen?


 The only apparent answer is SpaceX has no confidence in the Raptor to do the necessary burns for the needed burn times, wait times, and power levels.


 Several Raptors also exploded or otherwise failed on the first Superheavy/Starship test flight IFT-1. SpaceX has argued the Raptor reliability has improved with the Raptor 2. But a key failure shows the Raptor 2 still is lacking in reliability. Indeed this failure provides further support for the contention SpaceX has not been completely forthright on the Raptor reliability. This was the failure on IFT-4 during the booster landing burn.  


 




 During this booster landing burn a Raptor 2 actually exploded. SpaceX still has not “come clean” on this fact. By not acknowledging this explosive failure they are giving an inaccurate assessment of the Raptor reliability.


 There are other important implications of this failure however. SpaceX had previously told the FAA the Superheavy booster was expected after ocean touchdown to tip over and float. 


Starship/Super Heavy Vehicle Ocean Landings and Launch Pad Detonation Suppression System, p.5

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/20230414_Starship_ReEvaluationEA.pdf


  It should have floated like the Falcon 9 did after a soft ocean landing:




 But in point of fact the Superheavy booster actually exploded. It appears likely the Raptor explosion during the landing burn compromised the vehicle integrity causing it to explode after ocean touchdown.


 But this has important consequences for the other booster landings over ocean and land. In IFT-6 the booster was waved off from the booster catch and did an ocean touchdown. Elon said it was likely that it would explode after ocean touchdown, which it did. But what about the SpaceX claim to the FAA that after soft ocean touchdown and tip over the booster would survive and float?

 Note that in this landing burn of the booster in IFT-6, flames were also seen shooting out the side of the booster. Even though there was no apparent engine explosion during this landing burn, as happened in IFT-4, that it also exploded after ocean touchdown suggests in this case also the booster was damaged. Then rather than the flames shooting up the side of the booster being an intentional venting it may be indicative of fires occurring in the engine bay as had been seen previously, thus compromising the vehicle integrity.


 In IFT-5 however, the booster was able to successfully complete the tower catch, despite the flames shooting up the side. In IFT-7 as well the tower catch was successful despite the flames also seen shooting up the side:





  We may hypothesize that it is the forces of the booster toppling over and impacting the ocean that cause the explosions that do not obtain during the tower catch, even though fires inside the engine bay occur in both scenarios.


 There is further evidence to suggest that fires occurring inside the engine bay are the underlying cause of the flames seen shooting up the sides of the booster during the landing burns.

 

 After the Starship explosion in IFT-7 Elon suggested the flames inside the Starship may have caused pressure build up that released flames, in this case small near the rear flap hinge:





 Elon suggested the position of the fire based on the position of this hinge:


Elon Musk @elonmusk

Preliminary indication is that we had an oxygen/fuel leak in the cavity above the ship engine firewall that was large enough to build pressure in excess of the vent capacity. 


Apart from obviously double-checking for leaks, we will add fire suppression to that volume and probably increase vent area. Nothing so far suggests pushing next launch past next month.

8:14 PM · Jan 16, 2025


 However, it should be noted because of their large size the Raptor Vacuum engines powerheads are also close to this area, so the leak could still have originated from them. You see in the image below the middle sea level engines’ powerheads are surrounded by fire shielding, and are below an apparent firewall. But the longer vacuum engines powerheads extend above this firewall.



 

 In that statement by Elon, it is also notable that Elons says the oxygen/fuel leak and resulting fire was in excess of the vent to handle. Applying that logic also to the Superheavy booster, the flames seen shooting out the side during the booster landing burns may have been due to propellant leaks and fires that were within the capacity of the larger vents on the booster to handle. 


 The second part of Elon’s statement also suggests this. Elon makes SpaceX sound sanguine about the leaks and flames within the rocket as long as they can be controlled.


 But whether they are controlled or not does not contradict the fact the flames seen shooting up the side of the booster during the landing burns are due to leaks and fires within the rocket.


 An earlier statement by Elon also suggests SpaceX had accepted the leaks, and resulting fires, by the Raptors and just sought to contain them:


Elon Musk @elonmusk

We could build a lot more, but the next version of Raptor is really the one to scale up production. We begin testing it in McGregor within a week or so. 

Regenerative cooling and secondary flow paths have been made integral to the whole engine, thus no heat shield is required. Nothing quite like this has ever been done before.

Taking away the engine heat shields also removes the need for 10+ tons of fire suppression behind the engine heat shield, as any gas leaks simply enter the already super-heated plasma surrounding the engines, rendering the leaks irrelevant.

Raptor 3 also has higher thrust and Isp.

9:38 AM · Jun 23, 2024 · 404.1K Views

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1804871620114214978

 

 SpaceX managed to convince the FAA not to require mishap investigations when an engine didn’t start or or fire the expected length of time, as long as the public was not endangered. This was a mistake because it allowed even IFT-4 not to require a mishap investigation. But this meant SpaceX didn’t have to admit an Raptor exploded during the booster landing burn on this flight. This had the effect of giving a misleading understanding of the reliability of the Raptor.


 However, with Starship exploding in IFT-7 with a chance conceivably of the public having been endangered, it must be noted the possibility it was an engine explosion can not be ruled out, along with the possibility it was a plumbing explosion. Then the Raptors tendency to leak and catch fire must be given more serious review. 


 For these reasons, the FAA should require SpaceX to release any and all videos of the engine bays of both stages while the engines are firing, most specifically during restarts.





Thursday, December 28, 2023

SpaceX should withdraw its application for the Starship as an Artemis lunar lander, Page 2: The Raptor is an unreliable engine.

 Copyright 2023 Robert Clark


 I had earlier argued that SpaceX should withdraw the Starship as a lunar lander. The primary basis for this was for safety of the surrounding population in case of an explosion on launch, SpaceX should withdraw its application for the Starship as an Artemis lunar lander.

 However, an additional reason why the Starship should not be used for a lunar lander is for safety of the crew. In the blog post, Did SpaceX throttle down the booster engines on the IFT-2 test launch to prevent engine failures?, I noted two separate methods of calculation suggest the SuperHeavy booster was throttled down to <75%. I also suggested the Starship upper stage was fired at ~90%. Given this difference in thrust power levels, I suggested the booster completed its portion of the ascent because it was throttled down and the upper stage did not because it was at close to full thrust. 

 Even though the booster engines successfully fired during the ascent, the booster exploded during the attempted return. One explanation offered was the engines were damaged by fuel slosh during flip of the booster. However, it should be noted the Starship during tests of the landing procedure, that at least one Raptor always leaked fuel and caught fire.



 Note even in the last two shown here, SN10 and SN15, there were engine fires on landing. For SN10 the engine fire led to the vehicle exploding a few minutes after landing. For SN15 the fire was extinguished before it caused an explosion. SN15 was called  a “successful” landing test because it did not explode. But that a Raptor still caught fire during this test gives further evidence the Raptor is still not a reliable engine. 

 And SN11 experienced a catastrophic explosion after a fuel leak and engine fire: 


 Since relighting the Raptors in flight always resulted in an engine fire, that is the most likely explanation for the IFT-2 booster explosion as well.

SpaceX Misleadingly Characterizes Raptor's Qualification for Flight.

 SpaceX has been using the term "full duration" for their Raptor static fire tests when they might only last 5 seconds. In the rest of the industry other than SpaceX, a full duration static test means firing for the full duration of an actual launch. 

280 seconds of glorious hot fire! 🔥 We are incredibly proud to be the 1st private company in #Europe (🤯) to hot fire a staged-combustion upper stage for its full duration. This qualifies our upper stage and Helix engine for flight 🚀 Enjoy the video and read more in our press release ➡️ bit.ly/3WJY2G4


And for the four SSME's on the SLS core stage:


 SpaceX calling their 5 second long test fires "full duration" misleadingly gives the impression that is sufficient to qualify the engines for full mission flight time.

No estimates for Raptor engine reliability publicly provided.

 For engines for a craft intended to carry astronauts and for which billions of dollars of public funds are earmarked there should be provided some indication about the safety and reliability of such engines. For instance this report provides estimates of the reliability of the different components of the SLS:

SLS-RPT-077
VERSION: 1
National Aeronautics and Space Administration
RELEASE DATE: MARCH 8, 2013
SPACE LAUNCH SYSTEM PROGRAM (SLSP)
RELIABILITY ALLOCATION REPORT

https://foia.msfc.nasa.gov/sites/foia.msfc.nasa.gov/files/FOIA%20Docs/42/SLS-RPT-077_SLSP-Reliability-Allocation-Report.pdf

 But no such estimates for the Raptor have been provided. That so many engines have consistently failed in actual flights suggest they have quite low reliability.

 In the scenario of the Merlin engines used for crewed flight, over 80 missions of the Falcon 9 were successfully flown before the first crewed flight. That means over 800 successful firings of the Merlins during that time. And added on after that the many launches since then, over one thousand successful firings of the Merlins have been made.

  Robert Clark

Monday, October 3, 2022

The raptor engine can open up the space frontier - if only SpaceX would allow it.

Copyright 2022 Robert Clark

  SpaceX has decided that the Raptors will first be used on the Superheavy/Starship, and perhaps even to only to be used on these vehicles. That SpaceX wants to put the Raptors on SH/SS is understandable since they want a super heavy lift rocket for Mars flights. However, Elon Musk has also spoken about opening up the space frontier. Then using the Raptors only on the largest space vehicles is the opposite of what they should be doing. 

 SpaceX shows great insight in wanting to produce fully reusable space vehicles since throughout history reusable transport vehicles have always been used. But in their approach to the SH/SS they are missing an extremely important fact. By insisting the SH/SS must be the be-all-end-all for ALL spaceflight they are ignoring the fact transport vehicles going back even to the horse-drawn era have always come in different sizes.

 SpaceX seems to be operating under the assumption making only this largest transport vehicle will be a competitive advantage in regards to size of the cargo that can be carried, therefore lowering the cost per kilo to orbit. But actually this is fallacious. It would be like trying to argue it would be optimal to only allow Greyhound buses and tractor trailers on the roads with no smaller vehicles allowed. In actuality, the number of transport vehicles on the road of various sizes from small to large is why the amount of transport, both cargo and human is so large.

 One might attempt to argue perhaps air transport would be more relevant to the question of only allowing the largest of transport vehicles to fly to space. But even here the argument is just as fallacious: the amount of transport by the wide-body aircraft is a tiny proportion of the amount of air transport occurring:



 Instead of their current approach, the SpaceX plan should be to allow other companies to use the Raptor in their own space vehicles. It is a fact that the engine is the most expensive development of a space vehicle. SpaceX is intending to produce the Raptor in high volume to reduce their cost. The cost of the Raptor is trending down to only $1 million per engine. By allowing space companies to purchase the Raptor would greatly reduce their development cost for their own rockets. 

 Calculations for Smaller Launchers. 

 It's puzzling why for so many years it was said SSTO's were not feasible or not with significant payload with current technology. Actually, high payload SSTO's are well within current tech and have been since the 70's with the advent of the staged-combustion, high-performance SSME hydrogen-fueled engines in the U.S. and the kerosene-fueled RD-180 and RD-170 engines in Russia. 

We now have the advent of the Raptor staged-combustion, high performance methane-fueled engine. This also makes possible SSTO with high payload: any of the current or past kerosene-fueled engines could become SSTO's when switched out to methane-fueled using the Raptor engine. The advantage is the Raptor engine in high volume production would be low cost.

 The Atlas I.

 This was the original rocket from the 60's that first sent John Glenn to orbit. At the time the engines were not advanced enough for SSTO. Because of the limited engines, extraordinary lengths were endeavored to reduced weight, including what were called "balloon tanks". These were tanks that maintained their structural integrity in simply being pressurized, to the extent they could not support their own weight if left unfueled or unpressurized. From the Astronautix web page:

SLV-3 Atlas / Agena B.
Family: Atlas. Country: USA. Status: Hardware. Department of
Defence Designation: SLV-3.
Standardized Atlas booster with Agena B upper stage.
Specifications
Payload: 600 kg. to a: 19,500 x 103,000 km orbit at 77.5 deg
inclination trajectory.
Stage Number: 0. 1 x Atlas MA-3 Gross Mass: 3,174 kg. Empty Mass:
3,174 kg. Thrust (vac): 167,740 kgf. Isp: 290 sec. Burn time: 120 sec.
Isp(sl): 256 sec. Diameter: 4.9 m. Span: 4.9 m. Length: 0.0 m.
Propellants: Lox/Kerosene No Engines: 2. LR-89-5
Stage Number: 1. 1 x Atlas Agena SLV-3 Gross Mass: 117,026 kg.
Empty Mass: 2,326 kg.
 Thrust (vac): 39,400 kgf. Isp: 316 sec. Burn
time: 265 sec. Isp(sl): 220 sec. Diameter: 3.1 m. Span: 4.9 m. Length:
20.7 m. Propellants: Lox/Kerosene No Engines: 1. LR-105-5
Stage Number: 2. 1 x Agena B Gross Mass: 7,167 kg. Empty Mass: 867
kg. Thrust (vac): 7,257 kgf. Isp: 285 sec. Burn time: 240 sec. Isp(sl): 0
sec. Diameter: 1.5 m. Span: 1.5 m. Length: 7.1 m. Propellants: Nitric
acid/UDMH No Engines: 1. Bell 8081

http://www.astronautix.com/a/atlasslv-3agenab.html

 You see the Stage 1 had a surprisingly high mass ratio of 50 to 1(!). However, the Atlas I was unusual in that it had a drop engine, listed here as Stage Number 0, that provided most of the lift-off thrust. The Stage Number 1 listed here had what was called a sustainer engine that flew the rest of the flight but did not have enough thrust for lift-off. So we'll remove that and replace it with the Raptor 2 sea level engine. This upgraded Raptor has an increased sea level thrust of 230-tons, with only slightly reduced vacuum Isp of ~ 350s. The Raptor 2 at 1,500 kg mass weighs about 1,000 kg more than the engine original used on the Atlas I Stage Number 1, so call the stage dry mass as 3,326 kg. 

 Normally methane-LOX propellant has a density of 800 kg/m^3 compared to 1,000 kg/m^3 for kerosene-LOX. But with supercooling the density of methane-LOX is about that of kerosene-LOX so we'll leave the propellant mass amounts the same in the calculations below.

 Then using a delta-v to orbit of ~9,150 m/s we can get ~5 tons to orbit for this Raptor powered Atlas I:

350*9.81Ln(1 + 114.7/(3.3 + 5)) = 9,250 m/s.

The Falcon 9 1st and 2nd stage.

 For the Falcon 9 1st stage:

TypeFalcon 9 FT Stage 1
Length42.6 m (47m w/ Interstage)
Diameter3.66 m
Inert Mass~22,200 kg (est.)
Propellant Mass411,000 kg (According to FAA)
FuelRocket Propellant 1
OxidizerLiquid Oxygen
LOX Mass287,430 kg
RP-1 Mass123,570 kg
LOX Volume234,700 l
RP-1 Volume143,900 l
LOX TankMonocoque
RP-1 TankStringer & Ring Frame
MaterialAluminum-Lithium
Interstage Length4.5 m (est.)
GuidanceFrom 2nd Stage
Tank PressurizationHeated Helium
Propulsion9 x Merlin 1D
Engine ArrangementOctaweb
 
   The 9 Merlin engines had a total sea level thrust of 775 tons-force. We'll replace them with three  Raptor 2 sea level engines of total 690 tons-force sea level thrust. It will be about 300 kilos increased weight for the engines so we'll use a dry weight of 22.5 tons. Then using the 350s Isp we get a ~8 ton payload:

350*9.81Ln(1 + 411/(22.5 + 8)) = 9,175 m/s. sufficient for LEO.

 For the Falcon 9 2nd stage:

TypeFalcon 9 FT Stage 2
Length12.6m (Separated Length)
Diameter3.66 m
Inert Mass4,000 kg (est.)
Propellant Mass107,500 kg (est.)
FuelRocket Propellant 1
OxidizerLiquid Oxygen
LOX Mass75,200 kg (est.)
RP-1 Mass32,300 kg (est.)
LOX TankMonocoque
RP-1 TankMonocoque
MaterialAluminum-Lithium
GuidanceInertial
Tank PressurizationHeated Helium
Propulsion1 x Merlin 1D Vac
Engine TypeGas Generator
Propellant FeedTurbopump
Thrust934kN
Engine Dry Weight~490kg
Burn Time397 s
Specific Impulse348s
Chamber Pressure>9.7MPa (M1D Standard)
Expansion Ratio165

  We'll only need a single Raptor 2 here to swap out the Merlin Vacuum engine. The Raptor weighs about 1,000 kilos more, so call the new dry mass 5,000 kg. Then this could get 3,000 kg to LEO:

350*9.81Ln(1 + 107.5/(5 + 3)) = 9,160 m/s.

 Note for both these cases the payload fraction will be 2% - 3%, which is in the range common for expendable rockets, countering the myth SSTO's can't carry significant payload. Actually, for both these cases the payload would be somewhat more because the simple rocket equation estimate doesn't take into account take-off thrust/weight ratio which is high in these two cases, which will increase the actual payload.

 The capability of an SSTO to carry significant payload is still controversial, however. So we'll look at a two-stage-to-orbit version of a Raptor powered version of the F9. Note here the upper stage only fires at high altitude so we can use the vacuum version of the Raptor with a ~380s vacuum Isp. Then we can get ~34 tons to LEO:

350*9.81Ln(1 + 411/(22.5 + 112.5 + 34)) + 380*9.81Ln(1 +107.5/(5 + 34)) = 9,160 m/s, sufficient for orbit with a 34 ton payload. This is a 50% improvement over the current F9 expendable payload of 22 tons.

For a ~200-ton gross mass vehicle.

 We will be basing cost estimates on the first version of the Falcon 9, now called v1.0, a ~300 ton gross mass vehicle. However, for cost reasons we're considering launchers as single stage launchable by a single Raptor, so we'll take our stage as approx. 200-tons gross mass. Take the propellant load of the stage as ~200 tons. For both the 1st and 2nd stages of the current Falcon 9 with the Merlins swapped out to use Raptors, we saw above both stages had mass ratios of about 20 to 1. So assume the mass ratio as about 20 to 1 with this new launcher, with an ~10 ton dry mass. Then the rocket equation gives:
350*9.81Ln(1 + 200/(10 + 5)) = 9,140 m/s, sufficient for a payload of 5 tons to LEO.

Cost Estimates.

 SpaceX shocked the space industry by developing the original version of the Falcon 9, now called Falcon 9 v1.0, at only a $300 million development cost:

Falcon 9.
In 2011, SpaceX estimated that Falcon 9 v1.0 development costs were on the order of US$300 million.[39] NASA estimated development costs of US$3.6 billion had a traditional cost-plus contract approach been used.[40] A 2011 NASA report "estimated that it would have cost the agency about US$4 billion to develop a rocket like the Falcon 9 booster based upon NASA's traditional contracting processes" while "a more commercial development" approach might have allowed the agency to pay only US$1.7 billion".[41]

 This was only a tenth of the development cost of a usual government-financed launcher of this size, approx. 300 tons gross mass. Note too developing a new engine makes up the lion-share of the development of a new rocket. Look for example at this breakdown of of the development costs of the Ariane 5 rocket:

Development budget

Again, Ariane 5, from 'Europäische Tragerraketen, band 2', Bernd Leitenberger:

Studies and tests 125
solid boosters 355
H120 first stage 270
HM60 (Vulcain) engine and test stands 738

other elements of the first stage and boosters 95
upper stage and VEB 200
ground support in Europe 80
Buildings and other structures in Kourou (launch pad) 450
Test flights 185
Total 2498
ESA and CNES management 102

https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/17777/what-is-the-rough-breakdown-of-rocket-costs

 For our scenario we would not be using solid rockets, nor using an upper stage. For the Ariane 5, the ESA also built entire new launch facilities in Kourou, Guyana in equatorial Africa, while we'll assume using existing NASA facilities for our launch. Of the remaining costs, you see the Vulcain engine development cost was more than half the remaining costs, and far more than the Ariane 5 core stage itself. 

 So without new engine development, the development of a new 300 ton gross mass rocket might be less than a $150 million cost. So for our ~200-ton gross mass vehicle, estimate it as 2/3rds of that, so ~$100 million development cost. And for a 100-ton gross mass rocket perhaps 1/3rd of that so only $50 million. Note, we'll be following the SpaceX low cost commercial-space approach to rocket development, to be sure.

  As an example of a smaller launch vehicle commercial-space development cost, the SpaceX Falcon 1 cost about $90 million, but this was with the Merlin engine development cost. Without that, the development might have been less than half of that, or less than $45 million. Note too, the Falcon 1 development cost included the development of the upper stage and its separate engine. Then following the Ariane 5 costing model, we might estimate the development cost of the first stage only without engine development cost, as a only a quarter of the total development cost, so only ~$25 million. 

 As another example of development cost of a smaller rocket, consider the DC-X suborbital demonstrator rocket. This had a development cost of $60 million. It used off-the-shelf hydrogen-fueled RL-10A engines, saving on engine development costs. The DC-X was at about 9,000 kilo hydrogen-oxygen propellant load. Since kerosene-LOX or supercooled methane-LOX as propellant is three times as dense this would correspond to a vehicle of similar dimensions but of 3 times larger propellant load so ca. 27,000 kilos, about the size of the Falcon 1.

 What about the cost of a launch to the customer? Note that when a launch company prices its launches it includes in that an amount to cover its development cost after some number of launches. The actual production cost of a launcher will be several times less than the cost charged to the customer for a launch. 

 In both the Falcon 1 and the Falcon 9 v1.0 cases the initial price SpaceX charged was about 1/10th the development cost, though this proportion does go down as the number of rockets is increased. For the original Falcon 9 v1.0 the price charged was about $27 million, about 1/10th the $300 million development cost and for the Falcon 1 the price charged was $8 to $9 million, also about 1/10th the development cost of $90 million.

 So for the approx. 200-ton gross mass vehicle the price for the stage without the engine cost might be 1/10th of $100 million, or $10 million. And the cost with the Raptor engine added on? 

Customer Pricing for the Raptor Engine.

 The $1 million estimated cost of the Raptor when produced in volume will actually be the production cost to SpaceX. Remember the price for the engine SpaceX will charge the customer will include some amount to cover development cost. We don't know that development cost for the Raptor so we cant use the 1/10th estimate. Plus, this will be when SpaceX is producing the engine in high volume where that initial pricing estimate will likely not be valid.

 For lack of a better estimate we'll compare the customer pricing for the current version of the Falcon 9 to SpaceX's production costs of a single rocket:

INNOVATION
SPACEX: ELON MUSK BREAKS DOWN THE COST OF REUSABLE ROCKETS
SpaceX CEO Elon Musk has lifted the lid on why reusing Falcon 9 boosters makes long-term economic sense.
...
In terms of the marginal costs, the costs associated with producing just one extra rocket, Musk also recently shed some further light on the figures. In an interview with Aviation Week in May, Musk listed the marginal cost of a Falcon 9 at $15 million in the best case. He also listed the cost of refurbishing a booster at $1 million. This would fit with Musk's most recent claim that the costs of refurbishment make up less than 10 percent of the booster costs.

 So the price of the Falcon 9 of $60 million is about 4 times that of the production cost. Then based on that we might expect the price to the customer of $4 million, bringing the price of 200-ton gross mass 5-ton payload mass single stage to $14 million.

 However, that Raptor wikipedia article also says at mass-production of 500 engines per year the production cost might drop to only $250,000 per engine. In that case a 4 times markup would make the customer price $1 million, giving a price of $11 million for the stage.

Reusable Launcher.

 These though would be the expendable prices. According to Tim Dodd, the "Everyday Astronaut", the Raptor engine is expected to be reusable 50 times:



 Then if the maintenance cost is small compared to the launch cost, at the $11 million price point, that would be approx. $220,000 per launch. 

 And the price per kilo for a reusable version? That would be dependent on the how much the extra mass for reusability systems subtract from the payload. 

Heat Shield and Landing Legs.

  We'll envision this as a VTVL (vertical take-off vertical landing) SSTO. Then we need to add heat shield, and landing legs. For weight of the heat shield, from the Apollo era it was about 15% of the weight of the reentry vehicle. However, SpaceX's PICA-X is about half the weight so about 7.5% of the landed weight, approx. the dry weight.


 Besides that, non-ablative thermal protection is now available at similar light-weight to PICA-X:

TPS Materials and Costs for Future Reusable Launch Vehicles.

 For the landing legs, that is commonly estimated as 3% of the landed weight:

Landing gear weight (Gary Hudson; George Herbert; Henry Spencer) 

 However, with modern composite materials we can probably get it to be half that. So call it 1.5% of the landed weight, which is approx. the stage dry weight.

Propellant for landing.
 I remember thinking when reading of the debate about reusable vehicles between proponents of horizontal winged and vertical propulsive landing that all this debate was about a measly 100 m/s delta-v. as for example discussed here:

Horizontal vs. vertical landing (Henry Spencer; Mitchell Burnside Clapp)

 The reason is whether you use wings or not almost all the speed of orbital velocity is going to be killed off aerodynamically on return. For even for vertical landing, the stage entering broadside will be slowed to terminal velocity, approx. 100 m/s. This is only about 1.3% that of orbital velocity of 7,800 m/s.
This was confirmed by a graphic just released by SpaceX about the BFR’s Starship upper stage reentry:


 This shows for the a vertically landed stage, it only has to fire the engines at about Mach 0.25, 80 m/s. So it only has to kill off 80 m/s propulsively. But with the stage just needing to kill off a 80 m/s velocity with a 3,300 m/s Raptor sea level exhaust velocity, about 330s Isp, by the rocket equation the mass ratio to do this is e[80/3300] = 1.025. Subtracting 1 from this is the ratio of the propellant required to the dry mass, about 2.5%. All together that's 11.5% of the dry mass, or only about 1 ton lost due to reusability.

 Then at that $220,000 cost per flight for a 50 use reusable  launcher, at a 4,000 kilo payload as reusable, the per kilo cost would be $220,000/4,000kg = $55/kilo.


   Robert Clark
   Adjunct Professor
   Dept. of Mathematics
   Widener University
   Chester, PA USA
 

Lightweight thermal protection for reentry of upper stages.

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